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Need section on population growth. See michael email
Interesting article on population growth: http://news.mongabay.com/2005/0502-rhett_butler.html
Point that once people get beyond materialism people are then in an optimal position to co-operate and collaborate for the right reasons.
Section on the economics of abundance.
Note about these developments not happening in a political and social vacuum - I'm just describing what is technologically possible at the moment.
John Gelles note
The fundamental positive (a sufficiency of material, energy, intelligence, information) is matched by the fundamental negatives: the urge to populate until scarcity trumps abundance (Malthusian doctrine); and the urge develop complexity, variation, embellishment and clutter, until intelligence cannot cope -- that is to experience the triumph of form over substance or mandarinism).
Simple solutions are resisted by the force of habit: for example, we do not highly reward females who limit themselves to two children, nor do we sufficiently reward effective simplification (an art that to date has lost the war against counter-productive complexity, clutter and distraction.)
Existing economics is defined by scarcity. Existing law is defined by blessed complexity.
Money, the God-sent simplifier, is under the control of the Devil. Rescue it, and the path to an advanced civilization will be widened to vastly increase the speed of travel to its many locales.
http://wiki-debate.wikispaces.com/debating+the+money+question
-- Johngelles 22:29, 22 February 2007
Image
Make image of cornucopia with more relevant stuff pouring out:
- Medicine
- Drinking water
- Food
- Vehicles
- Machines
- Housing
- Consumer products
- etc
General
- Create pages for people like Fresco
