Difference between revisions of "Talk:Food"

From AdCiv
Jump to: navigation, search
(How much land is needed to feed one person?)
Line 12: Line 12:
  
 
==How much land is needed to feed one person?==
 
==How much land is needed to feed one person?==
* [http://urbanevolution.org/thinktank/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=11] "The data I keep coming across on the web and in gardening books suggests that, to provide an adequate, year-round vegetable diet (excluding grains) for a family of four using standardized organic gardening methods, you would need a garden plot about 4000-5000 square feet" That's 1000-1250 square feet per person, 93-116m<sup>2</sup>
+
* [http://urbanevolution.org/thinktank/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=11] "The data I keep coming across on the web and in gardening books suggests that, to provide an adequate, year-round vegetable diet (excluding grains) for a family of four using standardized organic gardening methods, you would need a garden plot about 4000-5000 square feet" That's 1000-1250 square feet per person, '''93-116m<sup>2</sup>'''
* [http://tribes.tribe.net/permacult/thread/6ef985a6-1fc4-46d5-b5ab-6d04329afacd] "On approximately two acres-- half of which was on a terraced 35 degree slope--I produced enough food to feed more than 300 people (with a peak of 450 people at one point), 49 weeks a year in my fully organic CSA on the edge of Silicon Valley . If I could do it there you can do it anywhere." 2 acres = 8094m<sup>2</sup>. For 300 people, that's 27m<sup>2</sup> per person. For 450, it's 18m<sup>2</sup>
+
* [http://tribes.tribe.net/permacult/thread/6ef985a6-1fc4-46d5-b5ab-6d04329afacd] "On approximately two acres-- half of which was on a terraced 35 degree slope--I produced enough food to feed more than 300 people (with a peak of 450 people at one point), 49 weeks a year in my fully organic CSA on the edge of Silicon Valley . If I could do it there you can do it anywhere." 2 acres = 8094m<sup>2</sup>. For 300 people, that's '''27m<sup>2</sup>''' per person. For 450, it's '''18m<sup>2</sup>'''
* Hydroponics: [http://www.carbon.org/senegal/india1.doc] "SH garden produces 2 kilos of vegetables a day per 20m<sup>2</sup> space."
+
* Hydroponics: [http://www.carbon.org/senegal/india1.doc] "SH garden produces 2 kilos of vegetables a day per '''20m<sup>2</sup>''' space."
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BRfvnCDOvE] 20m<sup>2</sup>, according to one of the guys who designed food production systems for NASA (probably aeroponics, though he doesn't specifically mention aeroponics in the video).
+
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BRfvnCDOvE]''' 20m<sup>2</sup>''', according to one of the guys who designed food production systems for NASA (probably aeroponics, though he doesn't specifically mention aeroponics in the video).
* At the very inefficient end of the spectrum: [http://www.cookinggarden.com/grow-garden-vegetables/how-many-acres-of-typical-land-would-it-take-to-grow-enough-vegetables-and-fruit-to-feed-a-person-for-a-year] "The current typical American’s food footprint load, including area left to meat, is approximately 2.1 acres. Traditional Victorian wisdom was that two acres would feed a person." 2 acres = 8094m<sup>2</sup>.
+
* At the very inefficient end of the spectrum: [http://www.cookinggarden.com/grow-garden-vegetables/how-many-acres-of-typical-land-would-it-take-to-grow-enough-vegetables-and-fruit-to-feed-a-person-for-a-year] "The current typical American’s food footprint load, including area left to meat, is approximately 2.1 acres. Traditional Victorian wisdom was that two acres would feed a person." 2 acres = '''8094m<sup>2</sup>'''.

Revision as of 17:15, 6 July 2010

  • Vertical farms (feed 40,000-50,000 people)
  • Look into algae as a food source. Spirulina etc.
    • Seaweed is an underexploited food source.
  • Make the point about using the best strains of plants (possibly GM) for food. Free seed exchanges
  • In-vitro meat
  • Seawater greenhouses
  • Automated agricultural equipment. Robot farmers
    • Tractors and combine harvesters could be fully automated with today's technology. Application of GPS, vision system and cut-off safety boundaries near roads and habitation.
  • As fishing has become more and more hi-tech lately (sonar to find shoals of fish etc.) might it be possible to build autonomous fishing boats? This would save people from doing dangerous work. I can envision autonomous lobster pots that have sensors to tell when they've caught a lobster. This sensor would activate a mechanism to haul the pot back in.
  • LED grow lights may actually improve yield by supplying just the right wavelengths, but the evidence is not in yet.


How much land is needed to feed one person?

  • [1] "The data I keep coming across on the web and in gardening books suggests that, to provide an adequate, year-round vegetable diet (excluding grains) for a family of four using standardized organic gardening methods, you would need a garden plot about 4000-5000 square feet" That's 1000-1250 square feet per person, 93-116m2
  • [2] "On approximately two acres-- half of which was on a terraced 35 degree slope--I produced enough food to feed more than 300 people (with a peak of 450 people at one point), 49 weeks a year in my fully organic CSA on the edge of Silicon Valley . If I could do it there you can do it anywhere." 2 acres = 8094m2. For 300 people, that's 27m2 per person. For 450, it's 18m2
  • Hydroponics: [3] "SH garden produces 2 kilos of vegetables a day per 20m2 space."
  • [4] 20m2, according to one of the guys who designed food production systems for NASA (probably aeroponics, though he doesn't specifically mention aeroponics in the video).
  • At the very inefficient end of the spectrum: [5] "The current typical American’s food footprint load, including area left to meat, is approximately 2.1 acres. Traditional Victorian wisdom was that two acres would feed a person." 2 acres = 8094m2.